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brennan has been key in implementing the stepped-up use of drones to target terror suspects. >> ifill: for more now on the justice department's white paper, we get two views. matthew waxman is a professor of law at columbia law school and a fellow at the council on foreign relations. and hina shamsi is director of the american civil liberties union's national security project. hina shamsi, has you look at this white paper today did it tell you something you did not know or that maybe you snerd. >> well, the argument in the white paper is quite familiar in many ways to speeches that senior administration officials have given. but i think there are two aspects that are particularly problematic and deeply chilling and everyone should read this white paper. someone what it says or summarizes about the substantive legal standards that the government is apparently applying. it starts out claiming that there are limits, for example, imminent threats, as you quoted in your introduction. as you keep reading as it turns out for a high-level official to determine that a threat is imminent he or
brennan has been key in implementing the stepped-up use of drones to target terror suspects. >> ifill: for more now on the justice department's white paper, we get two views. matthew waxman is a professor of law at columbia law school and a fellow at the council on foreign relations. and hina shamsi is director of the american civil liberties union's national security project. hina shamsi, has you look at this white paper today did it tell you something you did not know or that maybe you...
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tomorrow it will likely be an issue with john brennan. a new memo gives the president wide latitude in ordering the strikes. and overnight "the new york times" reported that some of the lethal strikes originated from base in saudi arabia. susan mcginnis is in washington. susan, good morning. >> good morning, anne-marie. yeah, this is coming from a newly declassified document that seems to provide legal rationale for the government to target u.s. abroad suspected of being terrorists without due process. this is an out growth of legislation from 9/11 and now there's an outcry from capitol hill and elsewhere that it goes too far. the white house is vigorously defending a justice department memo which says the administration can use drones to attack and kill american citizens working with terrorists. >> these strikes are legal. they're ethical. and they are wise. >> reporter: the memo originally obtained by nbc news says killing a u.s. citizen who's a senior in al qaeda is lawful under three conditions. the suspect is to kill americans. it's
tomorrow it will likely be an issue with john brennan. a new memo gives the president wide latitude in ordering the strikes. and overnight "the new york times" reported that some of the lethal strikes originated from base in saudi arabia. susan mcginnis is in washington. susan, good morning. >> good morning, anne-marie. yeah, this is coming from a newly declassified document that seems to provide legal rationale for the government to target u.s. abroad suspected of being...
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brennan has been key in implementing the stepped-up use of drones to target terror suspects. >> ifill: for more now on the justice department's white paper, we get two views. matthew waxman is a professor of law at columbia law school and a fellow at the council on foreign relations. and hina shamsi is director of the american civil liberties union's national security project. hina shamsi has you look at this white paper today did it tell you something you did not know or that maybe you snerd. >> well the argument in the white paper is quite familiar in many ways to speeches that senior administration officials have given. but i think there are two aspects that are particularly problematic and deeply chilling and everyone should read this white paper. someone what it says or summarizes about the substantive legal standards that the government is apparently applying. it starts out claiming that there are limits, for example imminent threats as you quoted in your introduction. as you keep reading as it turns out for a high-level official to determine that a threat is imminent he or she
brennan has been key in implementing the stepped-up use of drones to target terror suspects. >> ifill: for more now on the justice department's white paper, we get two views. matthew waxman is a professor of law at columbia law school and a fellow at the council on foreign relations. and hina shamsi is director of the american civil liberties union's national security project. hina shamsi has you look at this white paper today did it tell you something you did not know or that maybe you...
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brennan will be on the hot seat thursday in front of that committee. >> very good point, barbara. thank you. >>> new jersey senator robert menendez is now firing back against allegations that he partied with prostitutes in the caribbean. hear what he's saying, up next. [ woman ] my boyfriend and i were going on vacation, so i used my citi thankyou card to pick up some accessories. a new belt. some nylons. and what girl wouldn't need new shoes? and with all the points i've been earning, i was able to get us a flight to our favorite climbing spot even on a holiday weekend. ♪ things are definitely looking up. [ male announcer ] with no blackout dates, you can use your citi thankyou points to travel whenever you want. visit citi.com/thankyoucards to apply. i took something for my sinuses, but i still have this cough. [ male announcer ] a lot of sinus products don't treat cough. they don't? [ male announcer ] nope, but alka seltzer plus severe sinus does it treats your worst sinus symptoms, plus that annoying cough. [ breathes deeply ] ♪ oh, what a relief it is! [ angry gibberish ]
brennan will be on the hot seat thursday in front of that committee. >> very good point, barbara. thank you. >>> new jersey senator robert menendez is now firing back against allegations that he partied with prostitutes in the caribbean. hear what he's saying, up next. [ woman ] my boyfriend and i were going on vacation, so i used my citi thankyou card to pick up some accessories. a new belt. some nylons. and what girl wouldn't need new shoes? and with all the points i've been...
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this unprecedented overreach, constitutional overreach. >> i think some of it will come out in the brennan testimony, and that should be very, very interesting. >> yeah. >> we made the point yesterday if this was happening in the bush administration people would be going crazy sort of in the echo chamber, but i do think when you think through the debate on this, and the debate you and i would have on this we would end up where we were on the debate about torture where we both evolve a little bit because we both love this country and both want to respect the moral values that it's formed upon and we also want our children to be safe. >> right. >> i mean, i think the debate would sound the same. >> it's a balancing act. i am surprised, and willie, let me bring you in here because we went through this a lot talking about enhanced interrogation techniques, and pretty soon even sleep deprivation and things that are done to u.s. soldiers in basic training are started to be defined as torture so i'm going to say enhanced interrogation techniques, i never could have imagined under george w. bush a
this unprecedented overreach, constitutional overreach. >> i think some of it will come out in the brennan testimony, and that should be very, very interesting. >> yeah. >> we made the point yesterday if this was happening in the bush administration people would be going crazy sort of in the echo chamber, but i do think when you think through the debate on this, and the debate you and i would have on this we would end up where we were on the debate about torture where we both...
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the department of justice will come into play during the thursday's confirmation hearings for john brennan, nominated to become the next director of the cia. two voices i want to bring in. we have cnn senior legal analyst jeff toobin here sitting with me in new york and in atlanta, tom juneau, esquire writer at large. tom, let me begin with you. you and i have talked multiple times about drones, ad nauseam about your piece in "esquire" last july, you write about anwar al awlaki, his son who you call collateral damage. in learning of this sort of secret memo coming about, was there anything in it that surprised you? >> yeah, a few things. number one, you know, this is the -- we're familiar with the sound of the administration speaking to us about these -- about this program. they have justified it in various different venues. but this is the sound of the administration speaking to itself. and when the administration speaks to itself, it gives itself even more power than i think than anybody thought. it sort of -- it is a hypothetical situation it describes. it keeps on describing an informe
the department of justice will come into play during the thursday's confirmation hearings for john brennan, nominated to become the next director of the cia. two voices i want to bring in. we have cnn senior legal analyst jeff toobin here sitting with me in new york and in atlanta, tom juneau, esquire writer at large. tom, let me begin with you. you and i have talked multiple times about drones, ad nauseam about your piece in "esquire" last july, you write about anwar al awlaki, his...